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PostSubject: Which European country is the easiest to immigrate too?   Wed May 14, 2008 3:52 am

Please let me know...


how is Belgium.. more difficult than Germany? And which country has the least Muslim riots?

I need to immigrate.
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PostSubject: Re: Which European country is the easiest to immigrate too?   Wed May 14, 2008 9:54 am

i'd say scotland.

i have no idea how hard it is to move there, but it's a lovely country and everyone dislikes the weather anyway so there won't be a bunch of people wanting to migrate there. also, there's almost zero muslims [for what i've seen].
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PostSubject: Re: Which European country is the easiest to immigrate too?   Wed May 14, 2008 1:56 pm

hehe at least don't come here, there are lots of muslims here - and it's probably rather difficult to come in here anyway....
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PostSubject: Re: Which European country is the easiest to immigrate too?   Wed May 14, 2008 2:44 pm

I agree with that. Wink


I have seen LOTS of traditional muslims in Brussels in Belgium, by the way... So IF you are going to Belgium, don't go to Brussels! Wink

(it is a quite poor city for Dutch standards, anyway)
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PostSubject: Re: Which European country is the easiest to immigrate too?   Wed May 14, 2008 4:24 pm

Or you can immigrate to Norway, to Svalbard, Very desert place with lots of polarbears! Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Which European country is the easiest to immigrate too?   Wed May 14, 2008 4:35 pm

I'd say Belgium is easier to migrate to,
but I'd say Germany has less muslims, this might be because they're not too fond of going there with the world wars still in the back of their heads.

Overal we don't have a truckload of muslims, but there are quite a few.
Just don't move to Brussels or Antwerp :p

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PostSubject: Re: Which European country is the easiest to immigrate too?   Thu May 15, 2008 12:08 am

In Germany we got a lot of turks and russian.
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PostSubject: Re: Which European country is the easiest to immigrate too?   Thu May 15, 2008 12:35 am

what's your problem with muslims anyway?

because to me this thing started sounding like a racist thread.
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PostSubject: Re: Which European country is the easiest to immigrate too?   Thu May 15, 2008 12:58 am

Undeceived wrote:
what's your problem with muslims anyway?

because to me this thing started sounding like a racist thread.



I said "Muslim riots" , not Muslims. Cause I know in some places the Muslim Extremists like to get together and shout their death chants against jews and Christians... and I'd rather avoid those areas... that's all.


So there's lots of Russians in Germany, envoy... cool.. haha. I actually have relatives in Nuremberg.. so that might be a good place....

But Scottland sounds Sweet too...
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PostSubject: Re: Which European country is the easiest to immigrate too?   Thu May 15, 2008 9:01 am

Ash wrote:
Undeceived wrote:
what's your problem with muslims anyway?

because to me this thing started sounding like a racist thread.



I said "Muslim riots" , not Muslims. Cause I know in some places the Muslim Extremists like to get together and shout their death chants against jews and Christians... and I'd rather avoid those areas... that's all.


So there's lots of Russians in Germany, envoy... cool.. haha. I actually have relatives in Nuremberg.. so that might be a good place....

But Scottland sounds Sweet too...


I have NEVER seen anything like that, nor heard of it. I'm only being called names by people who think they are tough, that can be Dutch people ánd allochtones.
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PostSubject: Re: Which European country is the easiest to immigrate too?   Thu May 15, 2008 10:29 am

Ash wrote:
Undeceived wrote:
what's your problem with muslims anyway?

because to me this thing started sounding like a racist thread.



I said "Muslim riots" , not Muslims. Cause I know in some places the Muslim Extremists like to get together and shout their death chants against jews and Christians... and I'd rather avoid those areas... that's all.


So there's lots of Russians in Germany, envoy... cool.. haha. I actually have relatives in Nuremberg.. so that might be a good place....

But Scottland sounds Sweet too...



Nuremberg?
Do you mean Nürnberg?
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PostSubject: Re: Which European country is the easiest to immigrate too?   Thu May 15, 2008 5:49 pm

real riots aren't really done all that much here in Belgium and Germany Smile
especially not muslim ones.

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PostSubject: Re: Which European country is the easiest to immigrate too?   Thu May 15, 2008 8:06 pm

Ash wrote:
I said "Muslim riots" , not Muslims. Cause I know in some places the Muslim Extremists like to get together and shout their death chants against jews and Christians... and I'd rather avoid those areas... that's all.


This comment is simply pathetic.
Here in Holland we have 'De grijze wolven' ( a right-winged muslim organization ) and that's it.
Muslim riots... oh man, God bless America...
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PostSubject: Re: Which European country is the easiest to immigrate too?   Thu May 15, 2008 10:12 pm

I think I've heard that Sweden should be pretty easy to immigrate to, but I'm not sure at all. Maybe it's just easier than Denmark, but name a country that isn't...

And the muslim-thing. It's not as bad as the media portrays it. I mean, I live in Denmark and we had the whole Mohammed cartoon crisis, but I would hardly have noticed if it weren't for the media... it's not like they're all burning flags and embassies.
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PostSubject: Re: Which European country is the easiest to immigrate too?   Thu May 15, 2008 10:35 pm

true,
it's only in the more arabic countries that there are real muslim riots,
and France has had some too.

Yet in the rest of Europe it's all not that bad.

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PostSubject: Re: Which European country is the easiest to immigrate too?   Thu May 15, 2008 10:46 pm

if you don't like muslim riots, don't move to the middle east or indonesia.

in the rest of the world there's no such thing as muslim riots [if you mean the whole flag burning shouting fighting thing].

it's not like the muslims are taking over.
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PostSubject: Re: Which European country is the easiest to immigrate too?   Fri May 16, 2008 2:02 am

Matt wrote:
true,
it's only in the more arabic countries that there are real muslim riots,
and France has had some too.

Yet in the rest of Europe it's all not that bad.


Sweet!

And yea Envoy... I meant Nurnberg... haha. \m/ My spelling has always sucked.

One of my relatives was actually the Chief of Police there 15 years ago.. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Which European country is the easiest to immigrate too?   Fri May 16, 2008 11:36 pm

Undeceived wrote:
if you don't like muslim riots, don't move to the middle east or indonesia.

in the rest of the world there's no such thing as muslim riots [if you mean the whole flag burning shouting fighting thing].

it's not like the muslims are taking over.

France has had some small ones

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PostSubject: Re: Which European country is the easiest to immigrate too?   Fri May 30, 2008 2:07 am

Undeceived wrote:
if you don't like muslim riots, don't move to the middle east or indonesia.

in the rest of the world there's no such thing as muslim riots [if you mean the whole flag burning shouting fighting thing].

it's not like the muslims are taking over.

The muslims aren't taking over by force or rioting but politically. They call people racists or prejudice when we don't accept them or their religion but call for Christian images or things relating to a religion not their own to be taken down because it's "offensive". They go to new countries and demand for their religion to be accepted yet they fight to keep others from displaying Christianity. They call the cross offensive and demand it to be removed. Sure the muslims aren't just "taking over" but things are slowly changing and it isn't for the better.
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PostSubject: Re: Which European country is the easiest to immigrate too?   Sat May 31, 2008 10:10 am

I agree with Letlev Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Which European country is the easiest to immigrate too?   Mon Jun 02, 2008 7:40 am

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The muslims aren't taking over by force or rioting but politically.

For we life in a democracy. So there aint no taking over by use of politics.
Every single politician ( during recent years ) who tried to take over our country by extremes failed doing so. We life in a country where only the opinion of the masses count. There might be a change ( which I doubt it'll happen but just imagine ) that one day, a muslim organization turns out to be the biggest in our country. But even then they will still be a minority in numbers. There will allways be a resistance, as well by right-winged as left-winged organizations. In case you can't life with a mosque in your neighbourhood ( or somewhere around ) there is a reason to be afraid. But I guess you're not that closed-minded aren't you?

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They call people racists or prejudice when we don't accept them or their religion but call for Christian images or things relating to a religion not their own to be taken down because it's "offensive".

In case you experience this in your area you are right about some of the muslims over there.
I am not familiar with this behaviour so I can promise you that stuff like that isn't a big issue here.
Most muslims I've met/talked to have been kind and accepted my christian faith.

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They go to new countries and demand for their religion to be accepted yet they fight to keep others from displaying Christianity. They call the cross offensive and demand it to be removed. Sure the muslims aren't just "taking over" but things are slowly changing and it isn't for the better.

You mean they're acting the same like 'christians' did back in the days?
Except for now, the christian religion is accepted, simply because they pushed it through.
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PostSubject: Re: Which European country is the easiest to immigrate too?   Mon Jun 02, 2008 12:14 pm

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In case you experience this in your area you are right about some of the muslims over there.
I am not familiar with this behaviour so I can promise you that stuff like that isn't a big issue here.
Most muslims I've met/talked to have been kind and accepted my christian faith.

sadly enough I have experienced the both racist and almost violent actions for being either christian or just looking at them.

You probably live in a decent place,
but sadly enough some of the muslims (just like any other religion or race) answers to certain sad typical features.
(they seriously once hit me in the face just for looking at them.)

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PostSubject: Re: Which European country is the easiest to immigrate too?   Mon Jun 02, 2008 12:43 pm

Matt wrote:
(they seriously once hit me in the face just for looking at them.)

It sucks to hear that man.
I've been threatened once in a while by those typical stereo-types but knowing some of them keeps you out of the aggresion for they will stand up for you. While others will simply leave you alone. And besides of that, it gave you a great possibility to turn the other cheeck ( we allways have to learn it the hard way don't we ) and show them the love of Christ. For maybe one day they will understand.

But besides of that, I'm really sorry to hear that.
Although this has nothing to do with their believes, there are lots of people bashing each other for no reason but the bashing alone.
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PostSubject: Re: Which European country is the easiest to immigrate too?   Mon Jun 02, 2008 2:46 pm

that IS true,
but I guess they just think I hate them because I am 'metal'
I have never been rude or have fought back,
since I am far from aggressive,

but I just have a rather angry face when not smiling,
and I guess they think I am just yeah I don't know, angry or something.

And yeah it's not because they are 'muslims', but I think that

'they think that I think they suck' or something

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PostSubject: Re: Which European country is the easiest to immigrate too?   Tue Jun 03, 2008 12:35 am

Denmark just got "bombed" reently by some "peace loving" Muslims. Evil or Very Mad
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